You cannot possibly be serious about losing freedoms under Hillary. Your beloved Bush supports torture, warrantless surveillance, illegal monitoring of opposition groups, ethnic and religious profiling, mass arrest and detention of perceived "foreign radicals" to mention just a few. Using the Patriot act to go after americans in many criminal matters not remotely related to terrorism. The intimidation and interrogation of people for simply speaking out against the president. I mean c'mon, interrogating the family of a grade schooler because he drew a violent picture involving the president in class. Using the patriot act to gain warrants against doctors and scientists who were warning our gov't about the possibilities of bioterrorism by outside groups. It doesn't get much more oppressive than that.
I am not a Hillery or Gore fan, never never liked them and they will be worse then what we have in there now if by some dumb luck people will vote for them.
I no longer believe it's possible to get any worse than it is under the current administration.
graytdog
26th October 2007 - 08:53 AM
cheryl2 ... you haven't lived in Canada under our previouos "socialist" government. We pay huge taxes(husband's personal federal income tax level is 26 or 28% that is not including provincial and municipal taxes, provincial sales tax or something we have called GST). What is our prize for all this tax ... overpaid politicians and having absolutely no say, we have very few personal rights and freedoms. Our health care system that your democrats think shows standardized healthcare can work ... DOESN'T. I am waiting to get my kids in to see their family doctor we are now into February before they can get in and I have been trying since the beginning of August, I am told they are all booked up please call back in a week. Our military servicemen/women's income in some cases are below our government standard poverty level(people on social assistance can make more). Our country talks about its enviromental programs but then sells our surplus allowed units to China and other countries. The only people prospering in Canada are illegal immigrants, criminals and those on welfare(a single mother with 3 children can make more staying at home then being a secretary, what is the insentive to work then) ... which hard-working Canadians pay the bill for. Your current administration has made mistakes but trust me it could be worse!!!! We have a MUCH better government who so far has kept it's promises ... amazingly ... but it will take them a long time to undo the damage done in the last 12 years of Liberal (equivalent ... sort of ... to your democrats)governing. Sorry to rant ... thought I would give you all a peek into the slice of pie that is Canada LOL.
Tara
cheryl2
26th October 2007 - 09:47 AM
I'm familiar with the Canadian health systems, I have several friends up there and one of them has had significant health issues. But then, I'm not a big fan of socialism. Neither am I a fan of the fascist leanings of our current gov't. There's a middle ground and eventually someone will step up to the plate with a reasonable moderate stand.
greydaddy
30th January 2008 - 05:11 PM
No, Gore won't run. Where has he been lately. He is one of the gang of 4 who hates Hillary. You might see him later endorsing Obama.
Redstripe
30th January 2008 - 05:28 PM
QUOTE (greydaddy @ Oct 24 2007, 09:46 PM)
| QUOTE (cheryl2 @ Oct 24 2007, 08:42 PM) |
| QUOTE (Redstripe @ Oct 24 2007, 09:49 AM) | we're screwed anyway....the whole world is screwed... "we are gonna die, die and go to hell" (sorry, inside joke)
but seriously.. we're screwed |
People ought to be used to it after the last 6 years
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Yeah, but we ain't seen nothing yet is she makes it in there. Look out and hold on to your pocket book and your freedoms if Gore put's in his bid.
Good thing i don't have a freakin' pocket book....
dad2paisley
30th January 2008 - 05:44 PM