dad2paisley
8th June 2007 - 09:58 PM
By J.D. Wallace, KOLD News 13 Reporter
There were no dogs running at Tucson Greyhound Park on Wednesday night. A kennel operator tested positive for drugs on Tuesday night, thirty dogs were scratched, and racing was canceled Wednesday night because there weren't enough dogs to race.
"I'm not saying it hasn't gone in a good direction, but I think you can go overboard," said Tucson Greyhound Park CEO Tom Taylor.
Taylor said that he supports drug testing and keeping the industry honest, but he said that the Department of Racing wants to go way beyond the finish line with more drug testing for dogs and more audits of the betting.
"I don't think that's going to have any harm at all, as long as they don't make us pay for it," Taylor said.
"The industry should start supporting the regulation," said Geoffrey Gonsher, director of the Arizona Department of Racing.
The Department of Racing gets almost three million dollars for its enforcement budget from the Legislature. Its director, Geoffrey Gonsher, wants dog and horse racing to pick up the tab, and bring the system up to national standards. He said that Wednesday night's closure showed that recent improvements are working. Taylor agrees, but hopes that new efforts aren't excessive and expensive.
"And so, I think right now we need to settle back and let the industry regulate itself a little bit," Taylor said.
"That would be nice if they did, but historically they never have," Gonsher said.
Taylor said that racing should resume at Tucson Greyhound Park on Thursday.
prefontaine
8th June 2007 - 10:20 PM
I saw that on GG this morning. So what you are telling me is that there is AN employee in the racing industry that was abusing an illegal substance?? Wow, that is SO MUCH DIFFERENT than every other industry on earth.
dad2paisley
8th June 2007 - 10:23 PM
You know they always have to make it a big deal in the gh industry. Something else for the AR's to talk about. Drugy employees.
Jenna
8th June 2007 - 11:05 PM
I have to agree with you here. I don't see what the big deal is but I think it's more of an issue with with bettors than animal activists.
Jenna
terilynb
9th June 2007 - 12:52 AM
OK, I'm confused. Please don't give me grief, just help me understand.
Why did they cancel races because the employee tested positive? Was it just a punishment? Did they think he gave the drugs to the dogs? Help!!!
prefontaine
9th June 2007 - 06:25 AM
Terilynb, I had the same question myself. Do they really think that someone that smokes pot or snorts coke is automatically giving the dogs steroids!? The two really have nothing to do with each other.
Jenna
9th June 2007 - 08:07 AM
No, but the dogs could not race without their trainer there, so they had to be scratched.
Jenna
prefontaine
9th June 2007 - 12:18 PM
Duh, I wasn't thinking at 6:30 this morning!! And once that kennel's dogs were scratched, there weren't enough to fill the card.
FFR
9th June 2007 - 01:30 PM
If you bother to check with antone actually IN the business you'll see drug use among kennel help is a problem that puts the dogs at risk.
greyhoundstudies
10th June 2007 - 04:55 PM
Wonder if there will be a sweep of all the AZ tracks or was just TGP singled out?
Kathy
dvsgryhnd
11th June 2007 - 01:10 PM
Did this guy have 2 kennels? Thirty dogs in one night is half a kennel.
graytdog
11th June 2007 - 04:45 PM
Half kennel/full kennel what constitutes each?
By the way FFR you might be suprised how many bank employees, hospital employees, grocery store employees ... oh wait there are drug users in all feilds of employment that you wouldn't even recognize or know about.
How does a drug users actions become a reason for an end to the racing industry ... that's a leap even for AR's. Sorry JMHO.
Tara
greyhoundstudies
11th June 2007 - 06:27 PM
Tara you make a valid point. Substance abuse can be a problem nomatter what you do for a living or what side of the greyhound fence you are on. Many companies have drug rules but people are gonna do what they are gonna do. And I'm sure no one who's adopted a greyhound has ever had one too many, say during a greyhound event weekend, and then driven back to their hotel to take their pups out for late night walkies. (ok, flame away)
Kathy
WhippetTalk
11th June 2007 - 06:42 PM
Seriously, I think it's a bit overboard. You don't shut down a business because one of the employees tested positive. You fire that employee or suspend them and offer mandatory drug couseling or whatever. But you don't stop your business. I know I know, some people don't like to look at greyhound racing as a business. But it is. As long as they have a policy, make the employees sign that they agree to random drug testing and that they will lose their jobs if they test positive, I don't see how there is a problem?
If one of the dogs tested positive for having some drug in it's system to enhance it performance or something, that's when you close the track. But what do I know?
Jenna
11th June 2007 - 07:29 PM
Five trainers' drug test results briefly close dog track here
By Josh Brodesky
arizona daily star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 06.09.2007
Five trainers at Tucson Greyhound Park tested positive for drugs this week, closing the track for two days and shortening its racing schedule for the weekend. Following a tip, officials with the Arizona Department of Racing tested trainers from 12 kennels Tuesday night, said Geoffrey Gonsher, the agency's director. Five people came up positive, and "as a result there were not enough people to maintain the dogs that would be racing," Gonsher said. The track, which is located in South Tucson, shut down for Wednesday and Thursday.
Tom Taylor, the track's general manager, declined to comment about the drug testing. But he did say the track was open for the weekend and that it would be running nine races instead of its usual 10. "We are on top of it," he said.
A widespread drug testing of all kennel trainers is a rare event in Arizona dog racing. In the past, Gonsher said, his department has done random sampling on trainers. "This is the first time in my tenure that we have conducted this type of enforcement action at a dog track, and for so many individuals to test positive is a rarity in Arizona," Gonsher said.
The positive tests are just the latest incident to affect Tucson Greyhound Park. Last summer the track became mired in a scandal after more than 140 retired greyhounds disappeared.
The track had contracted with a Colorado-based hauler to deliver the dogs to adoption groups, but only a few of the dogs were ever accounted for. The hauler was later fined and his licenses were revoked in both Arizona and Colorado.
"I would not say it affects the integrity of the sport," Gonsher said of the drug test results. "I can say it's another black eye to Tucson Greyhound Park."
Susan Netboy, who runs the California-based Greyhound Protection League, said she was concerned that the impairment of trainers would put the dogs at risk.
"If you've got somebody whose judgment is impaired, and they are caring for 60 or 70 dogs, that concerns me greatly," she said.
Hearings for the five people who tested positive are scheduled next week, Gonsher said.
● Contact reporter Josh Brodesky at 807-7789 or jbrodesky@azstarnet.com.
FFR
13th June 2007 - 02:11 PM
| QUOTE (greytdog @ Jun 11 2007, 03:45 PM) |
By the way FFR you might be suprised how many bank employees, hospital employees, grocery store employees ... oh wait there are drug users in all feilds of employment that you wouldn't even recognize or know about. How does a drug users actions become a reason for an end to the racing industry ... that's a leap even for AR's. Sorry JMHO. Tara |
Doctors, lawyers, politicians, church leaders.... people in these fields use illegal drugs too. Drug use is a problem everywhere.
I didn't see where anyone was calling for an end to racing over the latest allegations in Arizona. You aren't saying that I am or that I'm "anti race" are you? Or by AR do you mean "animal rights"?
allforgreys
13th June 2007 - 02:42 PM
QUOTE (FFR @ Jun 13 2007, 01:11 PM)
| QUOTE (greytdog @ Jun 11 2007, 03:45 PM) |
By the way FFR you might be suprised how many bank employees, hospital employees, grocery store employees ... oh wait there are drug users in all feilds of employment that you wouldn't even recognize or know about. How does a drug users actions become a reason for an end to the racing industry ... that's a leap even for AR's. Sorry JMHO. Tara |
Doctors, lawyers, politicians, church leaders.... people in these fields use illegal drugs too. Drug use is a problem everywhere.
I didn't see where anyone was calling for an end to racing over the latest allegations in Arizona. You aren't saying that I am or that I'm "anti race" are you? Or by AR do you mean "animal rights"?
From reading what you posted, I think you are AR. I am too.
prefontaine
13th June 2007 - 07:30 PM
QUOTE (allforgreys @ Jun 13 2007, 01:42 PM)
| QUOTE (FFR @ Jun 13 2007, 01:11 PM) |
| QUOTE (greytdog @ Jun 11 2007, 03:45 PM) | By the way FFR you might be suprised how many bank employees, hospital employees, grocery store employees ... oh wait there are drug users in all feilds of employment that you wouldn't even recognize or know about. How does a drug users actions become a reason for an end to the racing industry ... that's a leap even for AR's. Sorry JMHO. Tara |
Doctors, lawyers, politicians, church leaders.... people in these fields use illegal drugs too. Drug use is a problem everywhere.
I didn't see where anyone was calling for an end to racing over the latest allegations in Arizona. You aren't saying that I am or that I'm "anti race" are you? Or by AR do you mean "animal rights"?
|
From reading what you posted, I think you are AR. I am too.
I think you would be spot-on, allforgreys.
Patricia
13th June 2007 - 09:16 PM
I think it is just silly, why punish the dogs, its not their fault. If my partner tested positive for drugs or ETOH, he or she would be suspended not me, to bad, I could use a night off.

In the BCFD we are always being drug tested, some members are tested every month.
graytdog
14th June 2007 - 11:31 AM
FFR you aren't anti-racing? That is not the impression I got from your post.
Tara
Jenna
14th June 2007 - 11:43 PM
This is amazing. Nowhere in that article does anyone say that greyhound racing should be shut down. Five trainers got caught taking drugs. Why are we making excuses for this? What difference does it make that other people take drugs? Those trainers should not be handling the dogs so they were scratched. I am glad they caught this before anything bad happened. It sounds like they have a system that works even if the primary concern was integrity of betting or whatever. The dogs benefitted in the long run. Go Gonsher. You be the man!
Redstripe
15th June 2007 - 06:59 AM
these employees tested positive for drugs, wonder if they were impaired at the track? and i wonder which drug they tested positive for?!
Jenna
15th June 2007 - 12:42 PM
I don't think they are allowed to give that information out.
Jenna
FFR
17th June 2007 - 12:51 AM
| QUOTE (Jenna @ Jun 15 2007, 11:42 AM) |
I don't think they are allowed to give that information out.
Jenna |
Cocaine and pot.
FFR
17th June 2007 - 12:53 AM
QUOTE (allforgreys @ Jun 13 2007, 01:42 PM)
| QUOTE (FFR @ Jun 13 2007, 01:11 PM) |
| QUOTE (greytdog @ Jun 11 2007, 03:45 PM) | By the way FFR you might be suprised how many bank employees, hospital employees, grocery store employees ... oh wait there are drug users in all feilds of employment that you wouldn't even recognize or know about. How does a drug users actions become a reason for an end to the racing industry ... that's a leap even for AR's. Sorry JMHO. Tara |
Doctors, lawyers, politicians, church leaders.... people in these fields use illegal drugs too. Drug use is a problem everywhere.
I didn't see where anyone was calling for an end to racing over the latest allegations in Arizona. You aren't saying that I am or that I'm "anti race" are you? Or by AR do you mean "animal rights"?
|
From reading what you posted, I think you are AR. I am too.
I'll ask again. AR = anti race or animal rights?
I am anti idiot, which is one reason I often appear anti race. but all one has to do is look at Tocson to see something is broken, and has been for years now.
Guest
18th June 2007 - 03:01 PM
| QUOTE (greytdog @ Jun 11 2007, 04:45 PM) |
Half kennel/full kennel what constitutes each? |
Tara, sorry to answer so late, but I meant most kennels have between 60 and 72 dogs and 30 racing one night from one kennel was practiacally impossible, but now I see it was more than one kennel involved.
dvsgryhnd
18th June 2007 - 03:03 PM
Sorry, I forgot to log in for that last post.
Denise