dad2paisley
11th July 2007 - 04:42 PM
QUOTE (cheryl @ Jul 11 2007, 04:27 PM)
| QUOTE (inquisitive snoop @ Jul 11 2007, 03:09 PM) |
| We have independent rescue groups that catch the feral cats, spay and neuter them and release them back into the wild since they really can't be reprogrammed to be pets. |
I have a cat here who was a ferral and he managed to turn into a pet. It did take about 4-5 years and perseverance, and now he helps to train the greyhounds not to chase cats.
That's great. Glad you took the kittie in.
Beryl
11th July 2007 - 04:53 PM
We have a feral cat group here also but you usually cannot get a crate when you call for one. Some of these pet owners around here do not care and I would like to do to them you know what
cheryl
11th July 2007 - 05:01 PM
| QUOTE (Beryl @ Jul 11 2007, 03:53 PM) |
We have a feral cat group here also but you usually cannot get a crate when you call for one. Some of these pet owners around here do not care and I would like to do to them you know what |
We have here cat protection leaugue.
They help owners like those type you mentioned to help with speying and castrating. They ask cat owners to donate £5 towards the cost of the op and the rest is covered by vouchers. The RSPCA have a similar scheme too, but they're in the postition to help if owners can't afford the op, at the descression andcircumstances, pay for the costs. Maybe those cat owners can give them the love food shelter etc, but unable to afford the vet op bills.
Beryl
11th July 2007 - 05:13 PM
Cheryl
I doubt it they just don't care. There is one guy up the street not of his dogs are fixed and one had a litter of 7 pups and his cats run wild. We have told him about programs that he can get vouchers to get his animals fixed but it goes in one ear and out the other.
Beryl
liza
11th July 2007 - 06:13 PM
It costs $2.00 in our town to license a spayed or neutered dog. I'm not sure how much it is to license an intact dog.
Beryl
11th July 2007 - 06:16 PM
MAYBE I SHOULD MOVE THERE THEN I WILL ONLY HAVE TO PAY $12/YEAR.
liza
11th July 2007 - 06:35 PM
| QUOTE (Beryl @ Jul 11 2007, 05:16 PM) |
MAYBE I SHOULD MOVE THERE THEN I WILL ONLY HAVE TO PAY $12/YEAR. |
That would be awesome! Then we wouldn't be the only sighthound family within a fifty mile radius!
inquisitive snoop
11th July 2007 - 08:35 PM
[QUOTE] Shaela July 11, 2007 - 3:33
The other difficulty is, in contrast to NYC, we've got a LOT of nearby rural areas, so people aren't nearly as bothered by loose animals or even ferals.
Don't kid yourself. Where I live, in Queens County - near Shea Stadium - we have the largest number of cemeteries in the country and the most vast expanse of park land in all of NYC, including Central Park. It's called the green belt and literally goes from one end of the borough to the other. The closest park to me is over 1,250 acres of land.
In looking for a lost show dog I've found a litter of kittens and am slowly gaining their trust. One day I'll put out a trap with their food in it, catch them, take them to be neutered and release them back in the same area.
Welcome to the big city
Beryl
11th July 2007 - 08:48 PM
There are too many people who do not care about their pets. I have a cemetery up from us and it is a very large Catholic one where there are a few notable burried. There are also woods and a few hills, the Mongahela River close by and there are feral cats and even dogs roaming around there. A lot of people like to walk along the river but do not walk there unless that have some sort of protection to ward off any dogs that may attack them. My son told me that he has had a few dogs go after him while there so he carries either a stick or a cane.
cheryl
12th July 2007 - 02:50 AM
| QUOTE (Beryl @ Jul 11 2007, 04:13 PM) |
Cheryl I doubt it they just don't care. There is one guy up the street not of his dogs are fixed and one had a litter of 7 pups and his cats run wild. We have told him about programs that he can get vouchers to get his animals fixed but it goes in one ear and out the other. Beryl |
The b***ds
He needs a visit from the ASPCA or Humane society.
I can't believe he gets away with it.
I have yearly visits from Rspca inspector to check things are ok and he offers any help if needed. He see's the animals are taken care of and the only time he commented on was the mice. " I need to clean them everyday and not twice a week." The male mice tend to smell worse than the girls and no matter how much I scrub, clean keep them healthy, you can't fully get rid of that smell.
Yet he cannot work out why my mice live to 3 years (Well looked after).
My 3 cats, 2 of the girls are sisters and were allowed one litter each before being speyed. They all sleep most of time and don't cause any problems. My ferral sits on top of my bungalow roof and goes to the ground to greet people, kids and dog walkers, and goes through the kitchen window to eat and drink.
With the man is there a way of reporting him and getting other neighbours to do so too? I thought the more complaints, the stronger authorities take action.
inquisitive snoop
12th July 2007 - 08:34 AM
That's nice that the RSPCA comes to check on the animals and offers advice on how to improve their care. More organizations should do that.
Somebody actually filed a complaint against me with the ASPCA back in December. The investigator came, saw the dogs and cats, saw that they were well taken care of, plenty of food in the house for them, well socialized, friendly, toys all over the place, etc. He asked me who did I "piss off", took pictures of all the animals and said he'd put a note in the file that there is nothing wrong and to ignore further complaints. I'm thinking somebody saw one of my Whippets that I had just rescued from a shelter and thought I was starving the poor thing. It's a shame because the time he wasted, and he was only doing his job, he could have been going after real bad people.
Beryl
12th July 2007 - 09:36 AM
Some people cannot mind their own business and I am so afaid that the same thing will happen to us with Softee our gal who will be 14 next month. She was always thin even when we adopted her at the age of 5. We have her on puppy food along with her regular food plus calcium with glucomate, fish oil and Gluco Flex III. We just got her over a gastro problem so there went her weight again hopefully we will get her built up so that you cannot count all the bones in her body.

Here is our Softshoesureshot's picture taken last month.
Beryl
12th July 2007 - 09:45 AM
With the man is there a way of reporting him and getting other neighbours to do so too? I thought the more complaints, the stronger authorities take action.[/QUOTE]
This man has children out of wedlock which are in trouble constantly. If you see the police up here we all ask what has ---------kids done now. He has at least one in jail, he harbours run a ways plus kids in trouble with the law. If he does not take care of the skin kids properly why would he take care of the fur kids. He has been before CYS more than once. When his dog had that litter the kids were told not to handle the pups and you saw them walking around with pups who did not even have their eyes open. A few weeks after she had the litter you saw her running the streets again. Here the animal people cannot go on private property and it really sickens me especially when you see them outside 24/7 and hear them barking at night. I better quit ranting
inquisitive snoop
12th July 2007 - 09:48 AM
She's beautiful and looks great for almost 14. If a sighthounds ribs are showing, big deal but if their hip bones are bulging that is a big deal. That's how Max was when I got him. Ribs sticking out and hip bones sticking out also. I've had him now for 2 months and he looks good, gained some weight, muscle mass is back, he has taken over the bed and is a happy boy. I can't really blame the owner but then again I can since he boarded him at a kennel for 2 months before giving him up for adoption.
inquisitive snoop
12th July 2007 - 10:06 AM
NYC just enacted a noise polution law. It applies to everything from construction workers to dogs. If a dog parks constantly for 10 or more minutes between the hours of 7 and 10 the owner is subject to a fine, or 5 or minutes bewteen 10 pm and 7 a.m.
cheryl
12th July 2007 - 11:41 AM
The inspectors do act on complaints and a lot of them have been in the welfare for so long like the one who may visited you, to know whos neglecting and whose not.
I had the same with Jammy when she first homed here. Very underweight hardly any fur and very nervous. I told him where she came from and she's having treatment for it.
The following year he returned and he was flabergasted to see a different dog. I have to watch her weight though because she tends to put too much on.
Jammy is the fawn/white

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inquisitive snoop
12th July 2007 - 11:54 AM
People just don't understand that certain breeds of dogs are supposed to be lean and since they don't have much hair they look even more so. I have 3 siblings and they were just over a year and hadn't fully developed yet.
dad2paisley
12th July 2007 - 12:52 PM
Jammy is a sweetie.
Beryl
12th July 2007 - 12:55 PM
Her hip bones are showing and so are the bones in her back. That is why the puppy food and we are also doing a demand type of feeding. Main meals are at 9 am and 7 pm. If she goes to the kitchen around noon and when her Dad gets home from work at night she will get a light meal of rice (she loves rice and pasta) scrambled baked egg yolks and some dry food all mixed together.
shell61257
13th July 2007 - 12:47 PM
Poor Softee! Highway says he hopes his sis is doing better soon! We love you Softee!!
Also, I'm in Jacksonville, FL and I went to the city's website to look up pet license. Sterilized pets are $16 and Fertile pets are $26. But how many people do you really think buy a license for their pets??! I actually used to get the license from my vet's office. I noticed that I did not recieve one for Highway this year and I did not get one for Eclipse who I've just adopted in May.
As most of you are aware, hurricanes can and do hit Florida. They have recently added pet friendly shelters and I wanted to be prepared. Part of getting ready involves getting a license for your pet. Wonder why Jax is so much higher than most other cities?!?
Michelle
liza
13th July 2007 - 02:13 PM
The cost of the pet licenses in my town could be low because we have less than 2500 residents. I don't think anyone really licenses their pets here with the exception of myself and probably a few others. The town hall lady seemed shocked that someone wanted a pet license when I inquired about them.

When I lived in Washington a year ago, the licenses were a bit higher. I think they were over ten dollars per altered pet, but I can't remember.
Beryl
13th July 2007 - 06:23 PM
The reason I asked about the cost of licenses was when Michelle told me how much Jacksonville's was compared to mine here in Pittsburgh. I was wondering how high can they go!
liza
13th July 2007 - 11:37 PM
It's good to know! I'm glad you asked!
Beryl
13th July 2007 - 11:56 PM
Thanks I was just curious there is a huge price difference and was wondering if Jacksonville was the highest. You wouldn't think so with all the retired people there. Oh some areas around here give discounts to Senior Citizens but Pittsburgh doesn't.
dad2paisley
14th July 2007 - 12:08 AM
I don't know our price. Trish does all that.
dad2paisley
14th July 2007 - 12:09 AM
| QUOTE (Beryl @ Jul 13 2007, 11:56 PM) |
Thanks I was just curious there is a huge price difference and was wondering if Jacksonville was the highest. You wouldn't think so with all the retired people there. Oh some areas around here give discounts to Senior Citizens but Pittsburgh doesn't. |
Could be a tax. Go for taxes for the state. I know in MD, probably some of the money is from a tax. They tax everything alot here and I wonder why we are always in a deficit with all the high taxes we pay here. Guess they just waste it.
Beryl
14th July 2007 - 12:20 AM
That sound like Pittsburgh - Lots of taxes but they are always in the red. Our wage tax is high, plus parking and entertainment tax.
inquisitive snoop
14th July 2007 - 07:22 PM
Gee. amd I thought NY was the land of taxes - state tax, city tax, tax on tax.
dad2paisley
14th July 2007 - 08:34 PM
We had a 10million dollar surplus with our Repbulican Gov and the economy was going great, taxes where low, wages were great but since we have a new Gov., a Democrat, he comes on the news all the time saying we are in crisis mode. We need to raise taxes, property taxes, gas tax, etc. So one reporter asks him, where is the surplus that we had. The Gov says, what surplus, it's all gone.
He hasn't been Gov for that long and the surplus and the rainy day fund money is already gone. I guess he had to pay off all the groups that elected him.
Urgg..
Beryl
14th July 2007 - 09:34 PM
7% tax for non essential items here in Allegheny County other counties are 6%. We also have a State Tax and the City Tax is more than the State. Tobacco and Alchohol is taxed up the you know what. When we used to smoke we could buy 2 cartons of ciggaretes to our one and the Alchohol was also priced about the same. Half of what we pay here. With all the taxes now on ciggaretes and alchohol we pay the 7% on top on that.
shalea
16th July 2007 - 12:49 PM
| QUOTE (inquisitive snoop @ Jul 11 2007, 07:35 PM) |
Don't kid yourself. Where I live, in Queens County - near Shea Stadium - we have the largest number of cemeteries in the country and the most vast expanse of park land in all of NYC, including Central Park. It's called the green belt and literally goes from one end of the borough to the other. The closest park to me is over 1,250 acres of land.
In looking for a lost show dog I've found a litter of kittens and am slowly gaining their trust. One day I'll put out a trap with their food in it, catch them, take them to be neutered and release them back in the same area.
Welcome to the big city |
"The other difficulty is, in contrast to NYC, we've got a LOT of nearby rural areas, so people aren't nearly as bothered by loose animals or even ferals."
When I said the above, I wasn't referring to open space so much as I was the difference in attitudes. Rural (agricultural) vs. urban attitudes, not open space vs. city.
inquisitive snoop
16th July 2007 - 04:46 PM
If you were to walk through any of the cemeteries of parks you wouldn't have a clue that there were ferals anywhere near but they are watching you. The only way we found out was we had hunting camera all around the area and some of the shots we retrieved were very interesting.
I do understand and agree with what your saying but the untrained eye doesn't even see them here.
Beryl
16th July 2007 - 05:19 PM
We have the same here in the cemeteries and a few times we have heard of these dog attacks. That is why I am usually at the door or window watching mine. Hopefully my fences will keep them away or I can get mine inside before anything happens. The cats are another matter there are so many around here, many of the neighbors are very unhappy about them. The do not come into my yard but will stay outside the fence tormenting my six pack.