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dad2paisley
How do you feel about gays adopting? Should they be allowed to raise a child? Do you think there could be negative effects on the child if s/he was raised by homosexuals?
PhL0aTeR
being raised in a house with homosexuals can be compared to being raised in a house of KKK members, Christians, Gen Xer's etc.... its all about the quality of life, and how much of their lifestyle they shove at the child. Being homosexuals has no bearing on whether or not the child is going to grow up any different than being raised by another couple. Homosexuality is just another label that people use to tag someone else or fit them into a slot.
dad2paisley
I have friends that are gay and have children they adopted and as long as they care for their kids, show them love and let them make their own choices etc. I have no problem with it.
prefontaine
Whew, Tom...I will typically debate until I am blue in the face. But I am NOT TOUCHING this one!!! laugh.gif
PhL0aTeR
QUOTE (dad2paisley @ Jul 27 2007, 07:29 PM)
I have friends that are gay and have children they adopted and as long as they care for their kids, show them love and let them make their own choices etc. I have no problem with it.

there ya go...
Redstripe
i could go on and on but i'll make it short and simple

two gay people could probably raise a child better than some of the traditional couples raising kids today
rycezmom
There are a LOT of really &#?*ed up kids out there that were raised by "normal" parents. And kids in general are really scary these days. So I dont put much weight in the idea that kids NEED a mother and a father. Two good fathers beat a crappy mother and father any day. Two good Moms beat a lousy single parent any day.....

Who cares as long as they act as responsible, caring parents.
prefontaine
QUOTE (rycezmom @ Jul 28 2007, 11:47 PM)
There are a LOT of really &#?*ed up kids out there that were raised by "normal" parents. And kids in general are really scary these days. So I dont put much weight in the idea that kids NEED a mother and a father. Two good fathers beat a crappy mother and father any day. Two good Moms beat a lousy single parent any day.....

Who cares as long as they act as responsible, caring parents.

Aw, crap....I was going to stay out of this one...

You are (not just you, but the discussion in general) comparing a model gay couple to a set of lowlife parents. How is THAT a fair comparison?? You have to compare apples to apples. Let's say a gay couple, lifelong partners, been together for 15 years...to a straight couple, been married the same amount of time, that wants kids but are unable to reproduce. If you try to compare even a marginal gay couple adopting to a straight couple addicted to heroin-of course the gays would win. The argument doesn't hold water unless you compare similar living coditions.
Redstripe
kind of off the subject but on the same subject of raising kids..

i was talking to a friend yesterday and he was upset thinking that his divorce messed up his son (who he had just dropped off at the scared straight program) my reply was "i had the best parents in the world, pretty much a story book childhood, but boy did i screw up" and i've had friends with alcoholics/addicts as parents and they did so much better than i did...

personally i can't come up with a reason why a gay couple shouldn't be able to adopt...

Patricia
I think its hard on the kids. Kids can be real mean and can really hurt a child who is being raised by a gay couple. Its a tough call. I'm sure that a gay couple can be very good parents, but one has to be aware of the social effects on the child.
Redstripe
kids will get hurt and picked on no matter what...
PhL0aTeR
QUOTE (prefontaine @ Jul 29 2007, 12:20 AM)
QUOTE (rycezmom @ Jul 28 2007, 11:47 PM)
There are a LOT of really &#?*ed up kids out there that were raised by "normal" parents.  And kids in general are really scary these days.  So I dont put much weight in the idea that kids NEED a mother and a father.  Two good fathers beat a crappy mother and father any day.  Two good Moms beat a lousy single parent any day.....

Who cares as long as they act as responsible, caring parents.

Aw, crap....I was going to stay out of this one...

You are (not just you, but the discussion in general) comparing a model gay couple to a set of lowlife parents. How is THAT a fair comparison?? You have to compare apples to apples. Let's say a gay couple, lifelong partners, been together for 15 years...to a straight couple, been married the same amount of time, that wants kids but are unable to reproduce. If you try to compare even a marginal gay couple adopting to a straight couple addicted to heroin-of course the gays would win. The argument doesn't hold water unless you compare similar living coditions.

well now that your in it... whats your stand?

Consider your own theory of the 15 year couples, one gay, one straight, unable to produce, and lets throw an additional gay couple into the mix of opposite genders..... 3 couples.... one heterosexual man and woman, one gay male couple and one lesbian couple.



whats the difference?
JudiK
Gee, Tom - this is one of those debates which will rage on and on... While we are on the topic, can a White couple raise a Black child? Can a Black couple raise a Chinese child? Can a straight couple raise a gay child? Perhaps only Black famiies should be allowed to adopt Black children, only Chinese couples raise Chinese children, and since sexuality doesn't appear until the adolescent years, maybe we should take gay children away from straight parents and re-home them with gay parents... It is a slippery slope and it begins to get scary - but it is all part of the sorting approach, where round pegs must be matched to round holes and square pegs to square holes. Forgive me if I sound like a hippie, but it all has to do with the ability of the individuals involved to love and guide the child through whatever life throws at them. If you are white, you can never understand the pain your child feels when the other kids call him an "Oreo" or the N-word. If you are straight, you can never understand the pain of trying to come to terms with a minority sexual orentation. But you can teach your child to cope with prejudice, whatever form it comes in. If you are gay, you and the straight community will teach your straight child to cope with his world. If you are raising a Korean child, you and the Korean community will be able to raise this child. The greatest challenge is in loving your child no matter what mistakes they make, steering them in the proper direction to grow up strong and kind and choosing wisely the community which will influence your child. emo-th_soapbox.gif Stepping down now, and going back to work - oh Lord, why did I agree to teach this Summer?!?!?
gpagreys
QUOTE (dad2paisley @ Jul 27 2007, 12:19 PM)
How do you feel about gays adopting? Should they be allowed to raise a child? Do you think there could be negative effects on the child if s/he was raised by homosexuals?


loving, supportive and caring parents = loving, supportive and caring parents. Stupid neglectful parents = stupid neglectful parents.

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