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Patricia
I really like going to church, it helps me to get from one day to the next and plus we have a really nice pastor, Father Lacey who is just a wonderful person. I've noticed the past weeks, there have been so much chatter before the mass its like a party and I like to take that time before mass to reflect on the past week and the future and just to calm down. Then people do not turn off their cell phones. Last week this woman who had her grand kids with her had a conversation on her phone during the mass! mad.gif And the way these kids dress, the girls like like Sidewalk Sally, if they bend over their jeans would split and their chest hanging out of their tops. What are they, at a cook-out? The young men show up in torn, jeans, with mud stains on them, and torn tee shirts. I think its awful. I always took pride in myself and I still do. I like to dress nice, after wearing a man's uniform and work boots for all these years, I enjoy dressing up. I wear a nice top and skirt, or dress, or pants, plus my 3 inch heels, I love my heels, I even wear my heels to the food store. And then there are the screaming, unruly kids, kicking the pew, eating treats and just out of control and so loud. What is wrong with the parents!! mad.gif They should take the child outside. I think some people should never should have bred! My pastor is just to nice to say anything, I'm sorry, this is unacceptable, and I know one day I might. Am I being to picky? emo-th_soapbox.gif
Redstripe
i think you are being too picky on the way you feel about the men in torn up mud stained jeans...God would rather have 50 messy men take time to worship him instead of 1,000 clean cut dressed up men to not worship him..he doesn't care how they dress...plus that's how i found a nice church to go to when i lived in Va., i hate dressing up, and i wanted to find a church with a community that didn't judge me on the way i dressed as long as i acted proper

and about the kids eating treats?! are they eating actual food? my grandma, great-grandmother, and my mom always had a pocket full of candies during church! of coruse we wouldn't smack our lips or sit there and have a feast on anything...

i do agree with you on kids acting up during church, parents need to start then and there and teach respect and how to act...and as for the "sidewalk sally" girls that wouldn't really bother me but i can understand how it would bother you and others...if this is something that bothers you to the point of leaving the church maybe you should run your feelings by Father Lacey.. it couldn't hurt?!
PhL0aTeR
QUOTE (Redstripe @ Jul 29 2007, 04:31 PM)
i think you are being too picky on the way you feel about the men in torn up mud stained jeans...God would rather have 50 messy men take time to worship him instead of 1,000 clean cut dressed up men to not worship him..he doesn't care how they dress...plus that's how i found a nice church to go to when i lived in Va., i hate dressing up, and i wanted to find a church with a community that didn't judge me on the way i dressed as long as i acted proper

I'm glad someone said that before i turned out to be the bad guy..... that being said, I am agnostic, and dont beleive either way, but beleive if there was a god, that he wouldnt be checking at the door for dress code.
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and about the kids eating treats?! are they eating actual food? my grandma, great-grandmother, and my mom always had a pocket full of candies during church! of coruse we wouldn't smack our lips or sit there and have a feast on anything...

i do agree with you on kids acting up during church, parents need to start then and there and teach respect and how to act...and as for the "sidewalk sally" girls that wouldn't really bother me but i can understand how it would bother you and others...if this is something that bothers you to the point of leaving the church maybe you should run your feelings by Father Lacey.. it couldn't hurt?!


Honestly, its the judgemental hypocrites that steered me away from church in the first place... When i was 18 years old, I was a doorman for a certain "nightclub" where your sidewalk sallys would take their clothes off for money, among other things, and i lost count of how many "first baptist church" attendees i would see come into that club. A bit of background - When i was 14 i was a troubled youth, got sent down to texas to live with grandparents who drug me to church every sunday. wasnt so bad, cuz we would go out to eat at a nice place afterwards. At any rate, for 3 years every sunday i would see these people. they judged me, told me i was on the path to hell, etc..... then I would see them come into that club..... If you could only see the looks on the faces that recognized me as "Al's Grandson".... priceless laugh.gif
dad2paisley
I don't really care how people look at church. At least they are coming. Kids eating, yeah, that is annoying, but I guess the parents have to keep the kids busy,esp if they are young. They can get quite bored siting for an hour or more. If the kid is crying and screaming, the parent should take them outside or in the lobby. It's quite annoying to everyone and esp the priest who is trying to give his sermon and has to talk over this noise.
Talking before church starts, I think they shouldn't cause that is time for reflection.
As the years go by, it seems every aspect of our culture is changing. I guess we just have to hang on.

PhL0aTeR
QUOTE (dad2paisley @ Jul 29 2007, 05:16 PM)

Talking before church starts, I think they shouldn't cause that is time for reflection.

some churches call that "fellowship"....


funny thing about this topic.... have you guys seen the commercials for the new reality tv show... something about a kid world? a place with no adults... anyway, one of the kids is saying, something to the effect of, "I think there should only be one religion, because too many and theres going to be conflict." lol
Redstripe
QUOTE (PhL0aTeR @ Jul 29 2007, 04:49 PM)
Honestly, its the judgemental hypocrites that steered me away from church in the first place....


and that pisses me off (not you, the hypocrits and the judging part, those people steer others away from religion) last i read in the Bible God was to do the judging not us...i'm a firm believer in my beliefs with God, but who am i to tell 100,000 other people that what they believe is wrong and that they are going to hell for doing certain things?!! all i can do is share my beliefs and hope others are interested..

this reminds me of a funny story, when i was 17 i got kicked out of a youth group because we went on a church vacation and everyone came back with purple or green hair, yes i brought the hair dye but i didn't make the kids do it, i did it for the concert that night and everyone else wanted to... what a way to reach out to a troubled teen, KICK HER OUT OF CHURCH?!!! its hair dye, i didn't shoot 'em up with herion....
PhL0aTeR
QUOTE (Redstripe @ Jul 29 2007, 05:38 PM)
its hair dye, i didn't shoot 'em up with herion....

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That is absolutely hilarious!!!!!

But yes, one of my "friends" in the neighborhood where i moved to was in the same church, and actually had a truck bought for him when he turned 16 if he agreed never to talk to me again. All because of his judgemental parents that knew why i came to live down in texas.
prefontaine
QUOTE (Redstripe @ Jul 29 2007, 05:38 PM)
its hair dye, i didn't shoot 'em up with herion....

Yeah, yeah, Hannah...We know you were shootin' em' up wth heroin too!! rolleyes.gif
Redstripe
QUOTE (prefontaine @ Jul 29 2007, 08:53 PM)
QUOTE (Redstripe @ Jul 29 2007, 05:38 PM)
its hair dye, i didn't shoot 'em up with herion....

Yeah, yeah, Hannah...We know you were shootin' em' up wth heroin too!! rolleyes.gif

ssshhh.....
Patricia
I'm not judging any one. I just think a little respect as far as appearence. There is a time and place for everything, they don't have to look like a fashion icon, but should like nice, they can were jeans, but, not so tight or torn with mud stains. I think most people like to see young people take pride in themselves. As far as the eating, these kids spit out the food on the pew and on the floor, gross, and them scream at their top of their lungs and the parents just ignore them, and they jump up and down on the pews, throw the mass books down, oh it just drives me nuts! emo-th_headbangwall.gif
graytdog
Okay so I will duck. I am a firm believer that if you go to the Lord's house be at least clean (no muddy, food stained clothes). If you went to visit your favorite movie star you'd dress nicely. Now that being said I would not fight my kids on jeans versus dress pants but they have to be CLEAN.
Our church actually asks for cell phones to be turned off ... we have the exception for 2 doctors with their pagers (when they take their rotation in Emerg.). We give our kids peppermints but they are not allowed to smack or crunch them in church. Both of our kids have been in church since they were 2 and we have taught them how to sit quietly in church just like we taught them to eat by themselves, talk and say please and thank-you (not without having to take them out of church a few times).
Why are people who attend church automatically painted with the same brush ... judgmental and think everyone who doesn't go to church is going to hell (yes maybe there are those out there but not all). Also if you don't believe in the bible and its teachings (the idea of hell being one) why does being told you may go to hell bother you? Just wondering.
Tara
PhL0aTeR
QUOTE (Patricia @ Jul 30 2007, 08:37 AM)
I'm not judging any one. I just think a little respect as far as appearence. There is a time and place for everything, they don't have to look like a fashion icon, but should like nice, they can were jeans, but, not so tight or torn with mud stains. I think most people like to see young people take pride in themselves. As far as the eating, these kids spit out the food on the pew and on the floor, gross, and them scream at their top of their lungs and the parents just ignore them, and they jump up and down on the pews, throw the mass books down, oh it just drives me nuts! emo-th_headbangwall.gif

Well, this isnt a church story, but it is a story about kids acting like $&*#@$^.

I spent quite a bit of time in San Angelo, TX, and when there wasn't anything better to do on Tuesdays, I'd frequent the "cheap seats" as I call them, which was a movie theater that had $0.50 Tuesdays. Well across the street from this theater was San Angelo's only mall. Some of you might already know what this is leading to, beings as were talking about kids here..... anyway, it is fairly common practice, for the owners of these devil children, to purchase their tickets, and then go to the mall where they wont be bothered, letting the theater babysit their kids. I cant remember the movie I was in, but it was something i had wanted to see, but never had the time to see it in the regular theater, and i really didnt want to miss anything. There was probably a handful of adults in the theater, and 2 handfuls of childeren, so we were obviously outnumbered, and I had been in there with plenty of time to see the movie so i was sitting through the jokes and ads, etc, and these damn kids were jumping on seats, shooting rubber bands at each other, one even went up to the screen and ran behind it banging on it the whole way. I politely asked if anyone in the theater knew any of these little ankle biters, and received no positive response. that being the case, i knew i had to act. My hand was twitching at the thought of dealing out a butt whuppin to these unruly miniature people, but I thought I would give them the benefit of the doubt, and i would tell them to settle down, so i stood up, (the previews were about to start so it was still light) and told them all to settle down, and if there were going to watch this movie, to sit down and shut up.

Well that worked for about 2 min. they huddled up and decided that there were more of them than there were of us, so if need be they could "take us". i dunno what they said in the huddle, but thats my best guess. At any rate, they broke their huddle and continued to rampage the theater. Well the choice was clear, I had to make an example out of at least one of them, So i noticed the biggest one was making an effort to run laps up and down the aisles, and the next time he came down mine, i stuck my leg out and tripped him. He was going towards the screen, which made it great, because he fell and slid more than if he was going the other way since it was slightly downhill. After tripping him, i thought that wouldnt be enough, so i went and picked him up by the back of his pants and asked him if he had had an @$$whuppin lately, and he was just screaming to put him down. Now that he helped me gain the attention of the other renegades, i put him over my knee and dealt out 5 hefty swats and told him that if he would have listened to me the first time, i wouldt have to do that. Funny thing is, he told me he was sorry, and got the kids to leave the theater with him. Right after the kid got off my lap, a lady in the audience told me i had no right to do it, and i told her to shut her mouth or she would be next, to which i received an applause from the other few people..... lol


So long story short, go bend one over the knee.... problem solved biggrin.gif

dad2paisley
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Patricia
Wow, good for you! My luck I would be sued. biggrin.gif
PhL0aTeR
QUOTE (Patricia @ Jul 30 2007, 11:06 AM)
Wow, good for you! My luck I would be sued. biggrin.gif

yeah, ive done quite a bit i could be sued for.... its a wonder im not penniless and on the street yet. lol
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